[OpenTRV-dev] OpenTRV at local ham club

Bo Herrmannsen EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN
Tue Jul 29 11:00:49 BST 2014


only if they have upgraded the fuses then.... but will look for it


2014-07-29 11:59 GMT+02:00 Stuart Poulton <EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN>:

> Bo,
>
> Take a look at the B+, I think it will remove the requirement for a 4 port
> hub.
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On 29/07/14 10:56, Bo Herrmannsen wrote:
>
>> this time i take i from top and down,
>>
>> yes, heating should be controlled just as you wrote, some might unlock
>> the house and not have the sms access, of course they will not have the
>> benefits of a preheated house, but what the heck... and LED to show status
>> would be nice to tell them that heat is comming
>>
>> Interesting about the 3G dongle... but maybe in my case i can make do
>> with the alarm system if there are a spare input and output, will have to
>> check it
>>
>> As for current yes... i will prop give the pi its own 5V supply, then a 4
>> port usb hub with its own supply of 2A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-29 11:43 GMT+02:00 Gareth Coleman <EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN <mailto:
>> EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN>>:
>>
>>     Hello everybody, I thought I'd take the chance of chipping in even
>>     though I almost certainly don't fully understand the situation!
>>
>>     Seems like you have two separate requirements, one to turn the
>>     heating on and off by text message, and the other to turn the
>>     heating on/off by the alarm output (indicating occupancy). And by
>>     'off' you mean set the desired temperature to 5 degrees C, 'on' is
>>     set to 19 or so.
>>
>>     We've experimented with using a cheap 3G dongle attached to a
>>     raspberry pi and using free software called gammu to send text
>>     messages. The software also receives text messages and drops them
>>     into a folder on the raspberry pi's filing system. It's pretty
>>     straightforward to set up - to make things easy we bought a
>>     known-compatible dongle off ebay for £10. Just make sure the Pi
>>     has a decent power supply so that the surges of current the dongle
>>     needs don't make the Pi brown-out.
>>
>>     From there you could use any sort of simple text parsing system
>>     that is familiar (python, node.js, bash etc) to work out if the
>>     heating system should be changed to enter frost mode. Personally
>>     I'd use node-red because I think it's really good at allowing
>>     non-programmers to understand the system configuration. You don't
>>     want to be called out every time the system needs tweaking - the
>>     end-users need to 'own' the system. However if they are hams then
>>     they might be comfortable on the command line editing code
>>     directly, maybe not.
>>
>>     One of the many great things about node-red is that you get a web
>>     interface out of the box, it looks like the attached image. It
>>     would be fine for slightly technical people, not so great for the
>>     general public as you can easily deploy new code that breaks things.
>>
>>     Interfacing with the alarm might be more trivial or not, depending
>>     on how the alarm works (I've not experimented with such systems).
>>     But assuming it's something accessible such as a relay contact or
>>     a simple signalling voltage with some ability to source current,
>>     you can just whack it into the Pi's gpio pins (maybe use an
>>     opto-coupler or buffer to make things more robust) and take things
>>     from there.
>>
>>     Hope that helps
>>
>>     Gareth
>>
>>
>>     On 29 July 2014 10:35, Kevin Wood <EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN
>>     <mailto:EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Bo,
>>
>>         I'm actually working on something quite similar at the moment
>>         for a second
>>         home that needs frost protection / monitoring remotely, in
>>         this case with
>>         oil fired heating.
>>
>>         My plan is a raspberry pi attached to an AVR which controls
>>         the heating
>>         system.
>>
>>         I'm thinking that the AVR can harvest temperature data from a
>>         couple of
>>         OneWire sensors, run the heating and hot water schedules and
>>         control
>>         relays that activate the heating system as required. It'll
>>         also have an
>>         RFM on the board for later integration with OpenTRV and, if I
>>         can reverse
>>         engineer it, the wireless oil level sensor on the oil tank.
>>
>>         R-Pi can host a web interface or, more likely in the first
>>         iteration,
>>         provide a mechanism to at least SSH into it and check
>>         everything remotely.
>>         Of course it could also do email notifications and SMS would
>>         be possible
>>         either via an internet SMS gateway, or just hang a GSM module
>>         off it with
>>         a cheap pay as you go SIM installed?
>>
>>         Does this premises have internet connectivity?
>>
>>         Kevin
>>
>>         > I was at local ham club last night at looked at their heating
>>         >
>>         > So far i "THINK" its all electrical heating as there is no
>>         district
>>         > heating
>>         > installed, makes things a bit more easy since heat not used
>>         will go back
>>         > to
>>         > the cylinder :-D
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Next bit, there is one big room with 4 rads, which means one
>>         box should
>>         > control them all, the box will be central placed. Its mainly
>>         old timers so
>>         > the less complicated the better, the rest of the rooms are
>>         one rad per
>>         > room.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Mostly @kevin but others might chip in, they have some kind
>>         of remote
>>         > control where they can send a text to turn stuff on and they
>>         would like to
>>         > be able to turn on the heat remotely, how could we get to that?
>>         >
>>         > the point is that when the house is locked heating should
>>         turn off
>>         > completely or run at 5degree to prevent frost issues. then
>>         either by
>>         > remote
>>         > command or when house is unlocked it should go to warm mode,
>>         there would
>>         > be
>>         > no need to sense if its day or night or if people are in the
>>         room etc. the
>>         > alarm will output a signal when its on/off
>>         >
>>         > any ideas?
>>         >
>>         > /bo
>>         >
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