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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Some (e.g. daveack) have used it for
      tracking as an alternative to RTTY.  I don't think they're using
      it for ukhas.net, which is probably what James meant.<br>
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      On 02/01/16 20:51, Bo Herrmannsen wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi mike....
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        <div>have been thinking... you say that the HAB guys use the
          LoRa radio... are you sure about that? was on an IRC chat and
          james said that they have rejected it on the grounds that its
          not open source</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-31 11:20 GMT+01:00 Mike
          Stirling <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div>Hi Bo,<br>
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                The MAC layer (LoRAWAN), which I think Jeremy is
                referring to, is a public spec, but the underlying
                modulation is not.  You can therefore currently only
                implement a LoRA system using one of Semtech's radios or
                a module based on their IP (e.g. Microchip).  The
                modulation is some sort of chirp spread spectrum system
                so is non-trivial to reverse engineer, but efforts are
                ongoing in the community.  Once that happens it would be
                possible to implement the physical layer in a software
                radio if that's what you want.<br>
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                Note that you can use a LoRA radio without the LoRAWAN
                MAC (as the HAB guys currently do).  In this case it
                just becomes a proprietary data pipe like the RFM22B or
                RFM12, but with longer range.<br>
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                Mike<br>
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                On 29/12/15 10:03, Jeremy Poulter wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">From what I understand there is a
                  component that is signed and you can not change it but
                  I believe the source will be available at some point.
                  This is the component that deals with the time slicing
                  and transmitting so you can not send more than you are
                  supposed to.
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 28 December 2015 at 13:37,
                    Bo Herrmannsen <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      <div dir="ltr">Hi
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                        <div>on the topic of using LoRa i have been told
                          that parts of it are closed source in the way
                          that you send data off by AT commands and then
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                        <div>Have i been told wrong?</div>
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