[OpenTRV-dev] Getting some OEM stuff

Bo Herrmannsen EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN
Sat Sep 6 12:24:31 BST 2014


oh just getting precise figures as fast it can go

any idea on how responsive it will be?

say i switch on a kettle how long will it take before i would see it on the
GLCD unit OEM have?




2014-09-06 13:16 GMT+02:00 Kevin Wood <EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN>:

> The blinker would probably be more accurate, and avoid the problem of
> sampling each phase, and voltage, and putting them together to calculate
> total consumption. It wouldn't be as responsive to quick changes in load,
> but would give you excellent daily / weekly / monthly figures. Depends what
> you need?
>
> Kevin
>
> On 06/09/14 10:13, Bo Herrmannsen wrote:
>
>> hmm..... for electricity i could also use the "blinker".... it has 10000
>> pulses for each KW/h... i have tried to look at it just before bed time
>> where everything is off.... if i remember correct it was one blink every
>> 4 sec max....
>>
>> and with that it was only modem on the tv cable on plus fridge.... not
>> much else...
>>
>> i just hope when they change it in a few months it will be the same
>> res.....
>>
>> then again is using CT's better? of course the more precise the better
>>
>>
>> 2014-09-06 10:54 GMT+02:00 Kevin Wood <EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN
>> <mailto:EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN>>:
>>
>>     I think you should be able to get one EMonTX to do the job. One word
>>     of warning, though. The current measuring setup on the EMonTx "out
>>     of the box" has about 100A full scale, and I think the resolution at
>>     "normal" levels of current draw is not really sufficient for
>>     measuring domestic background consumption.
>>
>>     I gather from your post that you have 3 phase incoming mains as
>>     opposed to the single phase domestic supplies that are normal here
>>     in the UK. Since your consumption is split between 3 phases, current
>>     resolution will be all the more important.
>>
>>     It's a while since I looked into it, but it might be worth figuring
>>     out what the resolution will be with the emontx and the current
>>     transformers you are using.
>>
>>     I believe there was a design posted somewhere on the OEM forums for
>>     a current measuring setup with range switching to give better
>>     resolution.
>>
>>     Best Regards
>>
>>
>>     Kevin
>>
>>     On 06/09/14 08:43, Bo Herrmannsen wrote:
>>
>>         Morning Kevin
>>
>>         Its not on purpose that I pester you so much about this, its
>>         more that
>>         i'm just a 2nd rate PCB monkey and not a very good programmer :-D
>>
>>         But it makes sense to go for 868, i did not think of the conrad
>>         valves.
>>
>>         Logging this morning heat up of hot water to arduino serial
>>         console and
>>         then my plan is to get the 3 CT's i have back in the fuse box (
>> they
>>         barely fit)
>>
>>         is my logic ok here;
>>
>>         1 emon TX v2 should cover all i need in utility closet:
>>
>>
>>         heat meter with 2 ways IR com (2 digital pins)
>>         water meter with bouncy reed switch (1 digital pin)
>>         electricity with 3 ct's and one AC
>>
>>         if any pins left then i allready have one DS18B20 chip in the
>>         top pocket
>>         of the hot water cylinder
>>
>>
>>         can one emon TX do the job or do i need 2?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         2014-09-06 8:54 GMT+02:00 Kevin Wood <EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN
>>         <mailto:EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN>
>>         <mailto:EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN
>>         <mailto:EMAIL ADDRESS HIDDEN>>>:
>>
>>              Hi Bo,
>>
>>              Been sidetracked onto getting a "boiler node" working for a
>>         second
>>              home before winter arrives (that's also loosely OEM / Opentrv
>>              related, so I'm going in the right general direction!) for
>> the
>>              moment but I haven't forgotten about getting OEM working on
>>         the OpenTrv!
>>
>>              I would say go for 868, on the basis that the OpenTRV stuff
>>         is fixed
>>              at this due to the rad. valves. That said, the OEM stuff
>>         I'm playing
>>              with is 433, due to some other requirements I have.
>>
>>              Best Regards
>>
>>              Kevin
>>
>>
>>              On 05/09/14 20:12, Bo Herrmannsen wrote:
>>
>>                  Just so i dont shoot myself in the foot, but what freq
>>         should i
>>                  choose
>>                  when getting OEM stuff?
>>
>>                  I want to plan ahead so that the RFM12Pi module from
>>         OEM also can be
>>                  used to talk to OpenTRV units...
>>
>>                  I have just figured how to read out my Heat Meter from
>>         the IR
>>                  optical
>>                  interface which is a 2 way port that requires that you
>>         send data and
>>                  then get data back... so it was not as easy as you
>>         would expect...
>>
>>                  now my next step is to get ready to log the data, for
>>         that i
>>                  need a pi
>>                  of course and then the radio module and their emontx
>>         v3... with some
>>                  clever thinking that emontx should be able to monitor
>>         both water,
>>                  electricity and heat at the same time...
>>
>>
>>                  @Kevin: any progress on talking to OpenTRV units from
>> OEM ?
>>
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