[OpenTRV-dev] EU radio band 48

Bo Herrmannsen bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com
Wed Jun 8 12:43:53 BST 2016


@Joseph Heenan

The radio modules are sub-assemblies... they come in the form of a little
board where the edge has half via's

*on the board it is fitted on you have a pattern that matches up and you
simply put it on the board and solder it in place*



*http://lowpowerlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/RFM69HW.jpg
<http://lowpowerlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/RFM69HW.jpg>*

2016-06-08 13:38 GMT+02:00 Joseph Heenan <joseph at heenan.me.uk>:

> I think this is turning out to be a rather confusing conversation, and I'm
> not clear who knows what about CE marking or what the exact planned
> products are. I have a little bit of experience in this area, but I am far
> from an expert.
>
> It is important to understand the difference between a CE marking and CE
> testing.
>
> If you have a radio module that is part of a product supplied to an end
> user, the radio module itself does NOT need to be CE marked. However, as
> has already been said, the full product including the radio board should be
> CE tested and if compliant CE marked.
>
> It may not even be possible to CE mark a radio module unless it meets the
> criteria for being a subassembly - i.e. the only assembly required is to
> "plug it in". This is often a slightly grey area, eg. whether a module has
> a 0.1" header fitted or just space for one to be fitted could make the
> difference! (I would imagine a large number of radio modules have been CE
> tested in some way, you just can't legally apply the CE mark to something
> that is not an end-user product.)
>
> There is an obvious advantage in having a module that has passed some CE
> testing, either by it's manufacturer or as part of someone else's product,
> as you then know that the radio board is well designed and not likely to
> cause a problem in your product's CE testing.
>
> [The CE mark is self-certified. There are unfortunately a huge number of
> products that have the CE mark but would not pass a certification test -
> some by accident, some through acts of omission, some due to deliberate
> fraud. Enforcement of CE marking in the UK is "highly variable" at best.]
>
> Joseph
>
> On 8 Jun 2016, at 11:55, Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If it has a CE stamp it's CE certified
>
> it cant have half CE stamp :-P
>
> 2016-06-08 12:52 GMT+02:00 Damon Hart-Davis <dhd at exnet.com>:
>
>>
>> > On 8 Jun 2016, at 11:45, Stuart Poulton <stuart at poulton.org.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > Damon,
>> >
>> > Don't see why RFM23B/69 won't cut it, it is after all what CurrentCost
>> used in their hardware.
>>
>> My understanding is that that they are not properly/fully CE-certified
>> for a start.
>>
>> It may be that we simply cannot find a CE-certified module that will work
>> for us and that we have time to program, so it’s not a view I am holding
>> lightly.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Damon
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