[OpenTRV-dev] EU radio band 48

[Bo Herrmannsen]

and dont forget about the china export marking.... 99,99% same as CE marking

2016-06-08 13:43 GMT+02:00 Damon Hart-Davis <dhd at exnet.com>:

> Thank you!
>
> “It’s complicated!”
>
> But I’m pretty sure that where we are now would not pass muster, for a
> consumer product.
>
> Rgds
>
> Damon
>
>
> > On 8 Jun 2016, at 12:38, Joseph Heenan <joseph at heenan.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > I think this is turning out to be a rather confusing conversation, and
> I'm not clear who knows what about CE marking or what the exact planned
> products are. I have a little bit of experience in this area, but I am far
> from an expert.
> >
> > It is important to understand the difference between a CE marking and CE
> testing.
> >
> > If you have a radio module that is part of a product supplied to an end
> user, the radio module itself does NOT need to be CE marked. However, as
> has already been said, the full product including the radio board should be
> CE tested and if compliant CE marked.
> >
> > It may not even be possible to CE mark a radio module unless it meets
> the criteria for being a subassembly - i.e. the only assembly required is
> to "plug it in". This is often a slightly grey area, eg. whether a module
> has a 0.1" header fitted or just space for one to be fitted could make the
> difference! (I would imagine a large number of radio modules have been CE
> tested in some way, you just can't legally apply the CE mark to something
> that is not an end-user product.)
> >
> > There is an obvious advantage in having a module that has passed some CE
> testing, either by it's manufacturer or as part of someone else's product,
> as you then know that the radio board is well designed and not likely to
> cause a problem in your product's CE testing.
> >
> > [The CE mark is self-certified. There are unfortunately a huge number of
> products that have the CE mark but would not pass a certification test -
> some by accident, some through acts of omission, some due to deliberate
> fraud. Enforcement of CE marking in the UK is "highly variable" at best.]
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> >> On 8 Jun 2016, at 11:55, Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If it has a CE stamp it's CE certified
> >>
> >> it cant have half CE stamp :-P
> >>
> >> 2016-06-08 12:52 GMT+02:00 Damon Hart-Davis <dhd at exnet.com>:
> >>
> >> > On 8 Jun 2016, at 11:45, Stuart Poulton <stuart at poulton.org.uk>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Damon,
> >> >
> >> > Don't see why RFM23B/69 won't cut it, it is after all what
> CurrentCost used in their hardware.
> >>
> >> My understanding is that that they are not properly/fully CE-certified
> for a start.
> >>
> >> It may be that we simply cannot find a CE-certified module that will
> work for us and that we have time to program, so it’s not a view I am
> holding lightly.
> >>
> >> Rgds
> >>
> >> Damon
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