[OpenTRV-dev] OpenTRV boards
Jeremy Poulter
jeremy at bigjungle.net
Thu Dec 17 10:27:45 GMT 2015
One of them yes, in the setup I have Emonbase is local and EmonCMS is the
'cloud' but that is just my personal setup.
On 17 December 2015 at 10:22, Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>
wrote:
> i see you both have emonbase and emoncms...
>
> since i only store data local i guess i can delete emonbase?
>
> 2015-12-17 11:20 GMT+01:00 Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>:
>
>> about the setup
>>
>> we use the same usb port config so i guess there is no need to change
>> that...
>>
>> are there other things i need to change?
>>
>> 2015-12-17 11:13 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>
>>> Yes, you probably need to restart. If you followed the instructions on
>>> the Node-RED site it should be;
>>>
>>> pm2 restart node-red
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On 17 December 2015 at 09:57, Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> that was install.... i guess i have to restart node-red before it is
>>>> loaded?
>>>>
>>>> if so what is the right command here? sudo service ***** restart or
>>>> something else?
>>>>
>>>> 2015-12-17 10:37 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> The TCP Server flow is a sub flow that provides the 'telnet' access
>>>>> directly to the serial port, allowing some form of remote control although
>>>>> only really intended for debugging. the snapshot you sent it looks like
>>>>> this has been loaded ok anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> The EmonCMS stuff is an extra step you need to do after the node-RED
>>>>> install, see
>>>>> http://openenergymonitor.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/node-red-emoncms-node.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 December 2015 at 00:10, Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> imported the opentrv.json
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://imgur.com/uFypiO3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it says that emoncms is not recognized/known... but i guess there is
>>>>>> a fix for that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> should the TCP server also be imported... and if so how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-12-17 0:31 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All of it should basically be reusable, should just be the serial
>>>>>>> port and emoncms server setup that needs changing (and I hope those are not
>>>>>>> in the code I shared ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to IM me via Hangouts or I can jump or the IRC tomorrow
>>>>>>> and we can go through the process together, that should help with my
>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 23:05, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yep there was a | spinning...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but installed now... setting it up to start at boot
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tomorrow the fun begins with setting up the flow.... how much of
>>>>>>>> your flow can i reuse?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-12-17 0:03 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Node-RED? I think it was a while but IIRC there was at least a
>>>>>>>>> sign of it doing something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 20:39, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hehe.... a over night install....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or how long should the install take?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 20:35 GMT+01:00 Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> oki doke...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> on it.... i'm just eager to get room temps looged so i can
>>>>>>>>>>> compare outside to inside temp and how much heat i suck from the district
>>>>>>>>>>> heating
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> on top the building *society
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.dk/search?q=society&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv7YLnj-HJAhVk8HIKHc1aAOgQvwUIGCgA> i
>>>>>>>>>>> rent my flat from replaces all windows and external doors with better
>>>>>>>>>>> onces... the current ones are as good as the fly net in a tent*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 20:13 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct, that is the instructions I used on a RPi B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Dec 2015 18:55, "Bo Herrmannsen" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would this page make do for installing node red?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://nodered.org/docs/hardware/raspberrypi.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my case a ras pi 1... so about half way down.... not on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jessie image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 19:45 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One is the input and the other is the output, both go to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same physical serial port.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Dec 2015 18:42, "Bo Herrmannsen" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at the flow picture....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i see 2 opentrv serials.... why is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 18:32 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I certainly have the data going from OpenTRV to EmonCMS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see the post OpenTRV, EmonCMS and Node-RED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://lists.opentrv.org.uk/pipermail/opentrv-dev/2015-November/001812.html>)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I am working on some more detailed instructions on the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regard to the back channel I do not believe that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EmonCMS architecture has been built to accommodate this. It is only really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for data storage/analyses. So I think you need something else for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control side of things. Have a look at;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openenergymonitor.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/remote-control-of-lightwave-rf-plugs.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openenergymonitor.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/openenergymonitor-emonpi-and-openhab.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 16:22, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i think he wants 2 way control so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so would i... but i could live with just getting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data in to emoncms... for which i have all the hardware but lacking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 17:16 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess the biggest question is what do you want from an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration with OEM? Are we talking about just getting data in to EmonCMS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want the OpenTRV radio link to directly talk with an EmonBase?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something in between?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 11:09, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is also why i argue that we should take the cost of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 so he can get going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OEM is always busy and i doubt that the hackahon bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us what we want...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 12:06 GMT+01:00 Damon Hart-Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dhd at exnet.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > What I'm particulary interested in is integration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with open energy monitor. That's why I would like to ask if there's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility to get a hold of a couple of boards to do some testing /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development on. Also any links to ongoing discussion on these integration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On this part, there is discussion in here, and there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an OEM/OpenTRV hackathon scheduled for 18th February at the BCS HQ in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> London.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is clearly not the only integration that OpenTRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be doing, but it is an important one and it’s frustrating to me that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have not already gotten further!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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