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Thu Dec 17 10:22:40 GMT 2015

i see you both have emonbase and emoncms...

since i only store data local i guess i can delete emonbase?

2015-12-17 11:20 GMT+01:00 Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>:

> about the setup
>
> we use the same usb port config so i guess there is no need to change
> that...
>
> are there other things i need to change?
>
> 2015-12-17 11:13 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>
>> Yes, you probably need to restart. If you followed the instructions on
>> the Node-RED site it should be;
>>
>>   pm2 restart node-red
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On 17 December 2015 at 09:57, Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> that was install.... i guess i have to restart node-red before it is
>>> loaded?
>>>
>>> if so what is the right command here? sudo service ***** restart or
>>> something else?
>>>
>>> 2015-12-17 10:37 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>
>>>> The TCP Server flow is a sub flow that provides the 'telnet' access
>>>> directly to the serial port, allowing some form of remote control although
>>>> only really intended for debugging. the snapshot you sent it looks like
>>>> this has been loaded ok anyway.
>>>>
>>>> The EmonCMS stuff is an extra step you need to do after the node-RED
>>>> install, see
>>>> http://openenergymonitor.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/node-red-emoncms-node.html
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> On 17 December 2015 at 00:10, Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> imported the opentrv.json
>>>>>
>>>>> http://imgur.com/uFypiO3
>>>>>
>>>>> it says that emoncms is not recognized/known... but i guess there is a
>>>>> fix for that
>>>>>
>>>>> should the TCP server also be imported... and if so how?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-12-17 0:31 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All of it should basically be reusable, should just be the serial
>>>>>> port and emoncms server setup that needs changing (and I hope those are not
>>>>>> in the code I shared ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to IM me via Hangouts or I can jump or the IRC tomorrow and
>>>>>> we can go through the process together, that should help with my
>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 23:05, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yep there was a | spinning...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but installed now... setting it up to start at boot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tomorrow the fun begins with setting up the flow.... how much of
>>>>>>> your flow can i reuse?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-12-17 0:03 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Node-RED? I think it was a while but IIRC there was at least a sign
>>>>>>>> of it doing something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 20:39, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hehe.... a over night install....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or how long should the install take?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 20:35 GMT+01:00 Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> oki doke...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> on it.... i'm just eager to get room temps looged so i can
>>>>>>>>>> compare outside to inside temp and how much heat i suck from the district
>>>>>>>>>> heating
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> on top the building *society
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.dk/search?q=society&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv7YLnj-HJAhVk8HIKHc1aAOgQvwUIGCgA> i
>>>>>>>>>> rent my flat from replaces all windows and external doors with better
>>>>>>>>>> onces... the current ones are as good as the fly net in a tent*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 20:13 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Correct, that is the instructions I used on a RPi B.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Dec 2015 18:55, "Bo Herrmannsen" <bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> would this page make do for installing node red?
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://nodered.org/docs/hardware/raspberrypi.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in my case a ras pi 1... so about half way down.... not on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> jessie image
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 19:45 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <jeremy at bigjungle.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One is the input and the other is the output, both go to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same physical serial port.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Dec 2015 18:42, "Bo Herrmannsen" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at the flow picture....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i see 2 opentrv serials.... why is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 18:32 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I certainly have the data going from OpenTRV to EmonCMS (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the post OpenTRV, EmonCMS and Node-RED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://lists.opentrv.org.uk/pipermail/opentrv-dev/2015-November/001812.html>)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I am working on some more detailed instructions on the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regard to the back channel I do not believe that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EmonCMS architecture has been built to accommodate this. It is only really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for data storage/analyses. So I think you need something else for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control side of things.  Have a look at;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openenergymonitor.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/remote-control-of-lightwave-rf-plugs.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openenergymonitor.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/openenergymonitor-emonpi-and-openhab.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 16:22, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i think he wants 2 way control so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so would i... but i could live with just getting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data in to emoncms... for which i have all the hardware but lacking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 17:16 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Poulter <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at bigjungle.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess the biggest question is what do you want from an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration with OEM? Are we talking about just getting data in to EmonCMS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want the OpenTRV radio link to directly talk with an EmonBase?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something in between?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 December 2015 at 11:09, Bo Herrmannsen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bo.herrmannsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is also why i argue that we should take the cost of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 so he can get going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OEM is always busy and i doubt that the hackahon bring us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-16 12:06 GMT+01:00 Damon Hart-Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dhd at exnet.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > What I'm particulary interested in is integration with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open energy monitor. That's why I would like to ask if there's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility to get a hold of a couple of boards to do some testing /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development on. Also any links to ongoing discussion on these integration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On this part, there is discussion in here, and there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an OEM/OpenTRV hackathon scheduled for 18th February at the BCS HQ in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> London.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is clearly not the only integration that OpenTRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be doing, but it is an important one and it’s frustrating to me that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have not already gotten further!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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